Can I claim mortgage fees against property profits and reduce my tax? Reply

Yes you can! if you are property investor you can offset mortgage fees

The rules are in Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Act 2005

Section 58

Incidental costs of obtaining finance
(1)In calculating the profits of a trade, a deduction is allowed for incidental costs of obtaining finance by means of—
(a)a loan, or
(b)the issue of loan stock,
if the interest on the loan or stock is deductible in calculating the profits of the trade.
(2)“Incidental costs of obtaining finance” means expenses—
(a)which are incurred on fees, commissions, advertising, printing and other incidental matters, and
(b)which are incurred wholly and exclusively for the purpose of obtaining the finance, providing security for it or repaying it.
(3)Expenses incurred wholly and exclusively for the purpose of—
(a)obtaining finance, or
(b)providing security for it,
are incidental costs of obtaining the finance even if it is not in fact obtained.
(4)But the following are not incidental costs of obtaining finance—
(a)sums paid because of losses resulting from movements in the rate of exchange between different currencies,
(b)sums paid for the purpose of protecting against such losses,
(c)the cost of repaying a loan or loan stock so far as attributable to its being repayable at a premium or having been obtained or issued at a discount, and
(d)stamp duty.
(5)This section needs to be read with section 59 (which provides for restrictions in relation to convertible loans and loan stock etc.).


Why retainers are bad for consultants Reply

Scaring amounts

A retainer fee is a fixed amount of money that a client agrees to pay, in advance, to secure the services of a consultant or freelancer. The fee is typically not associated with the success of a project or based on achieving particular results. A retainer is often paid in a single, lump sum, or on an ongoing basis (typically monthly or quarterly). [ – Consulting/Freelance]

The problem is that retainers create mutuality of obligation (MOO).

The significance of mutuality of obligation is that it determines whether there is a contract in existence at all. Without mutuality of obligation there can be no contract of any kind.


Only when the basic requirements for mutuality of obligation have been identified is it possible to then consider whether the contract is a contract of employment or a contract for Services (self-employment).


The basic requirements as to the mutual obligations necessary to determine whether there is a contract in existence at all are:


  • that the engager must be obliged to pay a wage or other remuneration, and
  • that the worker must be obliged to provide his or her own work or skill.


These basic requirements could be present in either a contract of service or a contract for services and, on their own, will not determine the nature of a contract.

According to HMRC, the irreducible minimum requirements for a contract of employment are:

  • the requisite mutuality of obligation present;
  • a sufficient degree of control being exercised on the part of the engager;
  • other provisions of the contract being consistent with a contract of employment

The very nature of a retainer fee arrangement attaches to it obligations, i.e. for the client to pay the freelancer an ongoing fee in return for the expectation by the client for the contractor to make themselves available, normally at short notice.


It’s almost impossible to argue that retainer fees would not fall within IR35 and be treated as Deemed Payments.

In order to stay outside of IR35 you will need to carefully consider the contract and identify employed status factors that will put you outside of IR35.